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Y Combinator: From 2005 Startup Funding to $500B Companies

Katy & TheoEpisode 17 of How They Made It6 min

How They Made ItEpisode 176 min · Katy & Theo
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A walk home from dinner in Harvard Square, two hundred grand, and a summer experiment that reshaped tech.

Transcript

Katy

March eleventh, two thousand five. Two people are walking home from dinner in Harvard Square, arguing about what's wrong with venture capital.

Theo

That's a fun date night.

Katy

She's Jessica Livingston, working at an investment bank, waiting on a VC firm that's taking forever to decide whether to hire her. He's Paul Graham, who sold his startup to Yahoo and keeps meaning to do angel investing but never has.

Theo

Keeps meaning to. That's very relatable.

Katy

Seven years he'd had the money sitting there. And somewhere between Harvard Square and the house, the idea gels. By the time they turn onto Walker Street, they've decided: start their own investment firm, and Jessica quits the bank to run it.

Theo

So how much money are we talking? Because that's the part that decides whether this is real.

Katy

Graham put in a hundred thousand. He recruited Robert Morris and Trevor Blackwell, who each put in fifty. Two hundred thousand dollars, total.

Theo

Two hundred K. That is... a nice car.

Katy

And it wasn't even called Y Combinator. The first name was Cambridge Seed.

Theo

Which sounds like a garden centre.

Katy

They dropped it within days, because they realised this could be national and they didn't want a name tied to one city.

Theo

Okay, but what was actually broken? Startups got funded before two thousand five.

Katy

Badly. Jessica's description is that your only option was finding a rich relative or friend to hand you some cash. After that, the next stop was VCs who wanted to put millions in. Nothing in between.

Theo

So there's a gap where you just need enough to eat for six months.

Katy

And the paperwork was chaos. Graham's line is that often neither the investor, nor the founders, nor the lawyer knew what the documents should look like. He points out Facebook started life as a Florida LLC.

Theo

Florida? Facebook?

Katy

That's how random it was. YC's actual product, at the start, was just standardised seed funding. Same terms, every time.

Theo

Hang on, that's it? That's the whole innovation?

Katy

No, and this is the part they didn't plan. Jessica says it straight: neither of them knew anything about angel investing. So they decided to learn fast by funding a bunch of startups all at once, over one summer, in Cambridge.

Theo

So the batch model — the thing everyone copies — was just them cramming?

Katy

It was a shortcut for their own inexperience. Graham later said funding startups synchronously was the most important idea they had, and they didn't realise its significance at the time.

Theo

That's genuinely my favourite kind of accident.

Katy

They called it the Summer Founders Program. Paul wrote a website, put it up, and Jessica's memory is: gosh, we hope people apply.

Theo

So how many did they take that first summer? Twenty? Thirty?

Katy

Nine companies.

Theo

Nine. Out of which anything survived?

Katy

One of the people in that inaugural batch was Sam Altman. Ten years later he founded OpenAI, which started as YC Research. OpenAI is now a five hundred billion dollar company.

Theo

From a nine-company summer camp in Cambridge.

Katy

The next few years were tiny, though. Eighteen companies in two thousand six. Thirty-two in two thousand seven.

Theo

Those are class sizes, not portfolios.

Katy

Then two thousand eight: forty-three companies, and the total money they raised after Demo Day that year was about fifty million dollars. Which, by YC standards, is nothing.

Theo

That's the financial crisis hitting, presumably. Rough year to be selling a dream.

Katy

Rough year to be a startup full stop. Airbnb was broke in two thousand eight, before YC. They fixed it by selling eight hundred boxes of cereal.

Theo

Cereal. Actual breakfast cereal.

Katy

Forty thousand dollars of revenue from it. Then they did YC in the winter oh-nine batch and went public in twenty twenty at over a hundred billion.

Theo

Okay, I want the arithmetic on the deal now. What does YC actually get?

Katy

Today they invest five hundred thousand dollars. A hundred and twenty-five of that buys a fixed seven percent, and the other three hundred and seventy-five goes in on an uncapped SAFE that prices later.

Theo

Seven percent for a hundred and twenty-five grand still sounds steep to me.

Katy

Graham thought about that. The guy who funded his own startup, Viaweb, was a family friend called Julian Weber. Ten thousand dollars, plus setting up the company and teaching them business — for ten percent.

Theo

And Graham resented that?

Katy

For about one second. He thought, what a good deal Julian got. Then realised that without Julian, Viaweb never makes it. Good deal for both sides. That's why he knew there was room for YC.

Theo

So where does two hundred thousand dollars and nine startups end up?

Katy

As of twenty twenty-six, YC has invested in over five thousand six hundred companies, with a combined valuation around six hundred billion dollars. Stripe, Coinbase, DoorDash, Dropbox, Instacart, Twitch.

Theo

And they still run it the same way? Three months, dinners, Demo Day?

Katy

Four batches a year now, in San Francisco. Founders get sorted into small groups, eat together weekly, and the alumni talks are strictly off the record — because the real story of a startup's early days is messier than the one they tell later.

Theo

I'd pay for those recordings.

Katy

The usable bit, I think, is the bit they stumbled into. They didn't know how to invest, so they did nine at once to learn faster. The shortcut became the product.

Theo

Do the thing badly nine times instead of carefully once. I can work with that.

Sources

Katy and Theo researched this episode from these sources.

  1. Y Combinator
  2. How Y Combinator Started
  3. The List of YC Companies, by Batch.
  4. What Happens at YC | Y Combinator
  5. Y Combinator - Case - Faculty & Research - Harvard Business School
  6. Jessica Livingston on the Accidental Origin of Y Combinator | Y Combinator
  7. The Y Combinator Standard Deal | Y Combinator
  8. YC batch index: every Y Combinator batch by funding and outcomes | Dealroom
  9. Apply to YC | Y Combinator
  10. Y Combinator