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Y Combinator: How a Startup Accelerator Changed Silicon Valley

Katy & TheoEpisode 18 of How They Made It6 min

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Two people walking home from dinner in Harvard Square decided to invest two hundred thousand dollars. Then this.

Transcript

Katy

March eleventh, two thousand five. Two people walking home from dinner in Harvard Square, arguing about everything that's broken with venture capital.

Theo

Arguing, or complaining? Because I do that walk home too and nothing comes of it.

Katy

Usually nothing does. But by the time Paul Graham and Jessica Livingston turned onto Walker Street, they'd decided to start their own investment firm. He put in a hundred thousand dollars. Robert Morris and Trevor Blackwell put in fifty each.

Theo

So two hundred thousand total. That's... a nice house, not a Silicon Valley institution.

Katy

And they almost called it Cambridge Seed. That name never saw daylight.

Theo

Why not?

Katy

They realized what they were doing could be national, and they didn't want a name tied to one town. So, Y Combinator.

Theo

Okay, but what was actually broken? VCs existed. Rich people existed.

Katy

That was the problem. Jessica's described it plainly: in two thousand four, if you wanted the first money for your startup, you found a rich relative or a friend's uncle. After that it jumped straight to VCs wanting to put in millions.

Theo

So nothing in between.

Katy

Nothing standardized. Graham points out Facebook started as a Florida LLC. That's how random the paperwork was.

Theo

A Florida LLC. That's a company that rents jet skis.

Katy

And Graham had lived the other version. When he started Viaweb, a friend named Julian Weber gave them ten thousand dollars, set up all the legal paperwork, taught them what business even was, and stayed calm when things went wrong. For that he got ten percent.

Theo

Ten percent for ten grand? That sounds brutal.

Katy

Graham thought the same thing. Then, he says, a second later he realized that without Julian, Viaweb never makes it. Good deal for Julian, good deal for them.

Theo

So they're trying to be everyone's Julian. How do you do that at scale?

Katy

By accident, mostly. Neither of them knew anything about angel investing. So Jessica said, let's learn fast, fund a bunch of startups at once, all in one summer.

Theo

Wait, that's the famous part. The batch. The whole model.

Katy

And they didn't know it was the important part. They thought they'd do one-at-a-time investing like everyone else. The summer thing was a training exercise.

Theo

They invented the thing by trying to practice the other thing.

Katy

Graham wrote a website, they put it up, and Jessica said they just hoped people would apply. Eight startups made it into that first summer. How many of the eight do you think worked out?

Theo

Eight companies, two thousand five, nobody's heard of them... I'll say one. Maybe one and a half.

Katy

Graham wrote in two thousand seven that at least four succeeded. One of them was a merger of two companies in that batch. Reddit and Infogami.

Theo

Reddit was in the FIRST eight? That's not luck, that's absurd.

Katy

Graham didn't think it would hold either. He said that batch could have been an anomaly and he'd feel safe aiming at twenty-five percent long term.

Theo

What about the ones that died? Because that's the part nobody tells you.

Katy

There's one called Kiko, a calendar company, squashed by Google Calendar after a year. They sold the software on eBay for a quarter of a million dollars, paid back their investors, walked away with about a year's salary each.

Theo

That's not a disaster, that's a soft landing.

Katy

And then they immediately started something else. Justin dot TV. Which, years later, Amazon bought as Twitch for about nine hundred and seventy million dollars.

Theo

So the failure from batch one became the billion-dollar thing. That's almost unfair.

Katy

Now watch the numbers move. Two thousand fifteen: about nine hundred and forty companies funded, eight worth over a billion.

Theo

And now?

Katy

By the end of twenty twenty-two, eighty companies valued over a billion, and the total value of YC companies past six hundred billion dollars. One batch alone, the twenty-twelve cohort, had Coinbase and Instacart in it. PitchBook put that single cohort's exit value at about ninety-three billion.

Theo

Against what, for everyone else?

Katy

Techstars' best was under ten billion. And YC's unicorn rate for its twenty-ten to twenty-fifteen batches was about five point eight percent, against two point two for Techstars.

Theo

Okay but at some point it stops being a cute summer camp and starts being a gatekeeper. Does that bother people?

Katy

It does. The deal now is five hundred thousand dollars, but the structure is seven percent for a hundred and twenty-five thousand, plus three hundred and seventy-five that converts later. Forbes pointed out that's not cheap, especially since all the teaching materials are free on the internet.

Theo

So you're paying seven percent for the phone numbers, basically.

Katy

For the signal. In one recent batch they picked four hundred and one companies out of more than sixteen thousand applicants. Getting in IS the product.

Theo

And one minute each on Demo Day to justify it.

Katy

One minute. Three hundred and seventy-seven companies pitching over two days.

Theo

What gets me is the first batch wasn't a strategy. It was two people who didn't know what they were doing, deciding to learn in public.

Katy

And Graham's answer to why more people don't try is that nearly everyone who does it prefers it to a regular job. He said the most successful founders are usually the uncertain ones. Some of them only applied hours before the deadline.

Theo

So the lesson is, apply anyway.

Katy

The lesson is they almost called it Cambridge Seed and went asynchronous like everybody else. Half of that company is just the version of it they didn't do.

Theo

I'm going to think about that on my next walk home.

Sources

Katy and Theo researched this episode from these sources.

  1. How Y Combinator Changed the World | WIRED
  2. How Y Combinator Started
  3. Why to Not Not Start a Startup
  4. 2022 YC Year in Review | Y Combinator
  5. Y Combinator, Silicon Valley’s Start-Up Machine - The New York Times
  6. Jessica Livingston on the Accidental Origin of Y Combinator | Y Combinator
  7. YC stats | Y Combinator
  8. Inside Y Combinator’s ‘Boom Loop’: The Startup Factory Goes Brasher, Leaner And Meaner
  9. Y Combinator - Case - Faculty & Research - Harvard Business School
  10. Y Combinator Dominates Startup Accelerator Programs for Investment Value | Institutional Investor