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Palantir Gotham vs. Metropolis Explained

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Palantir, ExplainedEpisode 26 min · Katy & Theo
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Batman's city for the spies, Superman's for the banks — and why one of them quietly died.

Transcript

Katy

Picture a trading floor at JPMorgan Chase, around two thousand nine. In walk Palantir's engineers... on skateboards.

Theo

At JPMorgan? That bank has a dress code thicker than a phone book.

Katy

They did. Bloomberg reported the bank gave up on ties and haircuts, but drew the line at T-shirts. The programmers had to wear collared shirts, tucked in when possible.

Theo

So what were they even building in there?

Katy

A product called Metropolis. And the bank was effectively Palantir's R and D lab for finance. The chief information officer at the time, Guy Chiarello, said the software turned "data landfills into gold mines."

Theo

Metropolis. As in Superman's city?

Katy

Exactly that. The other product was Gotham, as in Batman. Two superhero cities, two totally different customers.

Theo

Okay, that's either the most self-aware naming in software or the least.

Katy

Business Insider put it plainly back in twenty sixteen: Palantir thinks its software can save the world, and the names say it out loud.

Theo

So which one's which? I'd guess Gotham is the dark one.

Katy

Gotham is the government one. It started life literally called Palantir Government. Counterterrorism, intelligence, police work. Metropolis started as Palantir Finance.

Theo

Batman's the vigilante with the surveillance cave, Superman works at a newspaper. Weirdly on the nose.

Katy

Here's how they actually differed under the hood. Gotham is about links. People, places, phone records, vehicles... and the lines between them.

Theo

Connect the dots, basically.

Katy

Right. Graphs, maps, object explorers. The Conversation described it as taking whatever data an agency already has, breaking it into its smallest pieces, and turning it into one searchable web.

Theo

And Metropolis wasn't doing that?

Katy

Metropolis was math over time. Models, statistical operators, back-testing theories against market data. One early designer on the team said they even tried correlating baseball stats, for fun.

Theo

Baseball stats, at a counterterrorism company.

Katy

That designer, John Joh, joined the Metropolis team in two thousand seven. Fewer than fifteen people. He was the first designer on it.

Theo

Fifteen people building the thing that's supposed to crack Wall Street.

Katy

And they anchored the whole interface on Excel, because that's what every analyst already lived in. The philosophy was human-computer symbiosis, not AI. Computers sort and crunch; humans decide.

Theo

Which is a funny thing to say about a company whose whole pitch now is AI.

Katy

Metropolis worked, though. It landed a deal with Thomson Reuters, the biggest Palantir had signed at that point. A white-label version went out to Reuters partners as QA Studio.

Theo

So it was a hit.

Katy

More than that. Joh says Metropolis is what pushed Palantir's client base past fifty percent commercial. Before it, this was basically a government contractor.

Theo

Then why have I never heard of it?

Katy

Because it's gone. Discontinued. Replaced by a platform called Foundry.

Theo

They killed the product that diversified the whole company?

Katy

They replaced it. And part of the reason is a story that went very wrong. At JPMorgan, an executive named Peter Cavicchia the third used Metropolis to watch the bank's own employees.

Theo

Watch them how?

Katy

Emails, download activity, browser histories, GPS from bank-owned phones, transcripts of recorded calls. Searched for keywords and patterns that suggested an employee was getting disgruntled.

Theo

Disgruntled isn't a crime. That's... a mood.

Katy

The insider threat team would then scrutinize that person, and in some cases follow them after hours with bank security.

Theo

Following your own staff home. And this is the "Superman" product.

Katy

That's the tension the names never quite resolved. Today the lineup's different. Palantir's annual report lists four platforms: Gotham, Foundry, Apollo, and AIP, the AI one. Metropolis isn't on it.

Theo

So Gotham survived and Superman didn't.

Katy

Gotham's bigger than ever. Palantir's UK service document calls it an end-to-end platform for defense, intelligence and law enforcement, deployed across all Five Eyes nations and NATO members.

Theo

And who's actually buying it?

Katy

In Europe, El País reported earlier this month that at least eleven countries have Palantir contracts. Armies, intelligence services, healthcare, customs. And NATO bought the Maven Smart System in March twenty twenty-five as its central command system.

Theo

What about the US?

Katy

Immigration and Customs Enforcement alone has spent more than two hundred million dollars with Palantir, running its investigative case management and pulling in travel, visa, biometric and social media data.

Theo

So the thing that searches for links between people... is the one that stuck around.

Katy

And Gotham now leans on Foundry underneath it. The two sides of the company fused.

Theo

You know what gets me? They picked those names as a joke about saving the world, and then only one of the two cities got built.

Katy

Hershey and Bridgewater were on Palantir's customer lists too, Fortune reported. Candy companies and hedge funds. That world didn't vanish, it just got renamed something boring.

Theo

Foundry. Yeah, nobody's putting that on a hoodie.

Sources

Katy and Theo researched this episode from these sources.

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